the next presidential debate is a town hall format. is there a certain type of candidate that does better in that kind of setting? obviously bill clinton comes to mind, he excelled in those debates. >> bill clinton was the master of the town hall format. he made such a great, strong emotional connection with the people asking the questions. just in an absolutely masterful way. i think it favors candidates who have that particular style, but what it does tend to do is discourage a lot of attacks among the candidates on the stage, because it's really hard to do that, it's hard to pull that off when you've got a group of citizens who are there to ask their questions. that's not a very good venue for one candidate to launch an attack against another. >> one of the side notes from last night was governor romney's big bird reference on twitter, it's been talked about today. you say governor romney has a history of making cultural references or pop culture references that don't necessarily help his message. how so? >> well, you know, his pop